How to Spot a Narcissist

Narcissist

At the core of extreme narcissism is egotistical preoccupation with self, personal preferences, aspirations, needs, success, and how he/she is perceived by others. Some amount of basic narcissism is healthy, of course, but this type of narcissism is better termed as responsibly taking care of oneself. It is what I would call “normal” or “healthy” narcissism.

Extreme narcissists tend to be persons who move towards eventually cutting others off and becoming emotionally isolated. There are all types of levels on that road to isolation. Narcissists come in all shapes, sizes, and degrees. I would like to address how a person becomes an extreme narcissist.

Narcissism, in lay terms, basically means that a person is totally absorbed in self. The extreme narcissist is the center of his own universe. To an extreme narcissist, people are things to be used. It usually starts with a significant emotional wound or a series of them culminating in a major trauma of separation/attachment. No matter how socially skilled an extreme narcissist is, he/she has a major attachment dysfunction. The extreme narcissist is frozen in childhood. He/she became emotionally stuck at the time of his/her major trauma of separation/attachment. In my work with extreme narcissist patients I have found that their emotional age and maturity corresponds to the age they experienced their major trauma. This trauma was devastating to the point it almost killed that person emotionally. The pain never was totally gone and the bleeding was continuous. In order to survive, this child had to construct a protective barrier that insulates him/her from the external world of people. He/she generalized that all people are harmful and cannot be trusted. The protective insulation barrier he/she constructed is called a false persona. He/she created a false identity. This identity is not the true person inside. The many types of false personas or identities that an extreme narcissist creates can vary. Some narcissists may have the ability to change into a variety of identities according to the situation. The wounded child inside may choose to present a front as a “bad ass” and tough individual. He/she may look, by appearance, intimidating and scary to the average person. He could also play the “nice guy/person” whom everyone likes. A corporate type version can be one that is diplomatic, proper, and appearing to care but in reality does not. Another very likeable extreme narcissist can be the one that chooses the comedian role. He/she is the life of the party and has everyone in stitches, making them laugh constantly. Everyone wants to include this person because they are a lot of fun. Try to get close or ask personal questions as to how he/she is internally doing and feeling and you will find is that he/she will quickly distract you. They will sidestep the question with another joke, making you suddenly forget what you were asking. Narcissists can be very skilled at dodging and ducking personal questions. If you press them, they will then slot you as “unsafe” and will begin to avoid you and exclude you from their life. There is also the success oriented narcissist. He/she will be your friend and keep you close to him/her as long as you are useful. Once you do not have anything more to offer and he/she has taken all they wanted from you, you are history. You are no longer desired, wanted, or sought.

I remember a significant half dozen of these in my life. One narcissist in particular avoids me like the plague because he knows that I do not ultimately plan my life around whether people like me or not. Hence my behavior cannot be controlled by him. He is threatened by my self-assuredness. I’m not safe to him. It does not matter that I have helped him in critical moments of his life. When he realized that he could not control me to make him look good when I was with him, he dropped me like a heavy weight. I received no more phone calls and was taken off his radar screen. Another extreme narcissist stopped calling me when I got my Ph.D. I believe that, in his insecurity, he could no longer look “better” than me and be the focal person. As a result, he felt threatened that I had a more powerful image than he did. I think it is silly because I do not care about whether people have degrees to validate their intrinsic value as a human being. In my ministerial past, I have had several colleagues that I considered to be like blood brothers. We had sworn honesty and loyalty to each other. Once I opened up my weaknesses to them and then asked them to reciprocate, they looked for excuses to label me and reject me. The more I pressed them about their lack of being forthcoming and failing at their own promise of commitment to the friendship, the more vehement they became at avoiding disclosure of their warts to me. Of course, I already knew many of their flaws and already had no problem accepting them. Now it was their turn and they shut down and put up the thick wall. This is what genuine narcissists do. This is sad but it happens all the time with individuals that are scared to go down the road to becoming whole and healthy. It is like going under the knife of a surgeon. When there is a legitimate organic threat as with a malignant tumor, it can be hard to submit to the truth and then the treatment. This, however, is a door to a better life.

Is there hope for an extreme narcissist living in an emotional and relational fort of isolation. Is a narcissist able to have a healthy life? Definitely! I’ve seen many extreme narcissists become extremely healthy in their emotional and relational life. The first step is to find competent and safe help that knows how to heal emotional traumas. Just because a counselor may have all kinds of credentials it does not mean they are competent in dealing effectively with trauma issues. Because extreme narcissists tend to have an early history of emotional wounds they are full of distrust. If they can get past this hurdle then they can begin to find help to heal. Second, extreme narcissists have to be willing to enter the realm of their feelings again. They have been the masters of covering and hiding, even to themselves. They now have to start uncovering painful wounds. They have taught themselves to stuff and disconnect their own feelings for years. Because of this, they tend to live inside their heads, in the realm of so called reason. They are likely to live in the world of rational principles, laws, rules, which are all linear. This domain is a realm they feel they can control. It is devoid of feelings. The realm of the heart or feelings is very intimidating and unsafe to them because it is non-linear and there is very little control of the outcomes. If extreme narcissists can overcome these two hurdles then there is much hope for them. They are on their road to healing.

If you live with, date, or are married to an extreme narcissist and you feel you can use some effective counseling in order to avoid getting hurt or attracting one consider either a  face-to-face session with Dr. Sam or a video online session. He also does telephone consultations. Call 786-299-7548.

Patti reed said,

July 10, 2008 @ 4:41 am

God, this sounds like me!!!I know you tried to call me back yesterday, i was sleeping by 7 I havent been well. i hope we can talk today.239-649-0814

Janice Gold said,

September 9, 2008 @ 1:35 pm

Ha! Sounds like my sister in law. No one in the family can help her, as you so rightly put it – she gets emotionally isolated!

jasmine said,

November 10, 2008 @ 3:32 am

this rings so true of my husband…i was always feeling like i was not worthy….upon reaching 40 something inside took over and i became more at peace with myself….when my husband stonewalled me for 14 days , i asked him (well, i really told him to get the f??k out of my house) to leave. my intention was never for him not to return but to try and gain some insight that what we had was a very unhappy relationship….i had been praying for years to get some type of intimacy coming from my heart , so that i could truly love my husband,,,in good times /for better and for worse…..he broke my heart for when i had finally thought i got something back inside of me towards him, he shut me out again…and he never did come back…it has been the hardest thing i have ever had to deal with and sought therapy….this happened on august 8th 2008 and i am still in pain, yet getting stronger…this man will not give me any type of closure, and continues to blame me for everything, he will not even come and get his possesions (personal things, like his childrens pictures from childhood, his deceased grandfathers possesions, his parents wedding pictures…he did take all his jewelry(i manage a jewelry store,and all the jewelry he has, i have given him over the last 10 years…i just cant understand …my therapist recommends me placing it in storage ….any comments or advice???
sad and alone
jasmine

Dr.Sam said,

November 10, 2008 @ 12:39 pm

Jasmine,

I sense your deep pain.

He appears to fit the profile of a narcissist. Keeping you out of his life and being closed, manipulative, etc.

You may try to give him an ultimatum by asking him to see a competent therapist, show some progress that is measurable (stop the manipulation and open his heart up to you). If not, then consider doing a permanent “hasta la bye-bye.” You will need a lawyer then since there are children involve.

RR said,

December 28, 2008 @ 12:23 am

Thank you for this article. It is very helpful. RR

kim Zapolski said,

February 15, 2009 @ 8:28 am

Great article. My exhusband….Are all narcissists verbal and mental abusers? What constitutes Trama you refer to in your article. A brother disappearing forever on Thanksgiving and never found? Would that start the narcissist process for a six year old?

Jadegirl said,

April 8, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

so, if one was to define themselves as being an introvert and/or an antisocial…would this define them as being a narcissist? I choose to be antisocial and I tend to keep my emotions hidden; narcissism seems to be such a negative term to be used or to apply to oneself. Am I in denial?
I choose to keep frienships short, I do not trust too easily, but I do not keep friends or use them for the sake of gaining an advantage. I am in tune with my emotions, I am true to myself; i chose to isolate myself…i didnt think there was any harm in that.
by the way, i loved your article, it was very insightful.
See you thursday ;)

luis said,

May 20, 2009 @ 4:33 pm

This is all sooo true. Even though I consider myself a healthy narcissist, I strongly agree that it leads to ruin,deception, and ultimatley disgrace.

sunny said,

September 7, 2009 @ 9:11 am

One of the best articles I have ever read on narcissim. Mine started at age six when I was abandoned my whole family in a hospital..basically left to die. In many ways I did die and actually tried to commit suicide within the first six months of being left behind. On most levels I have come to peace that this savage scar that still remains deep inside my heart will simply always be there and try as I may, it will continue to influence my life on many levels. Self protection is not all bad. One must be wise in this life. Endeavoring to balance toward healthy selfishness is the goal yet usually at the first sign of someone appearing to be controlling or manipulative and I buck and run. Why isn’t that ok? Sometimes I think we over think and mediatate on our navels too much. Sometimes I think we all should just accept people the way they are and stop trying to figure everyone out all the time and change them when one can barely help or change themselves. People go through some really horrible things in life..to expect them to just “Get over it” and become more like ‘you’ is a hugely insensitive. We are who we are because of our experiences..Assuming we ‘understand’ when we do not is very small thinking. It does not help those who are damaged and vexed in their inner most heart to hear shallow words with zero truth in them. It furthers to foster the feeling that no one truly cares. May we all learn to pray more and speak less!

Jacky said,

October 21, 2009 @ 1:31 pm

My relationship with a narcissist lasted for 4.5 years and ended 6 months ago. To this date, despite all that I have read and learned, I still find it difficult to believe that I fell in love with a false image. Although now I am on my own I feel much happier, feel great peace and thank God I am finally in control of my own life, not a day goes buy without me examining in detail what happened. My N still contacts me via email, and tells me about his new job, the exotic holidays and fabulous new job, when I respond as a normal person would; acknowledging his acheivements and then telling him what’s happening in my life, he ignores me. As a consequence, I have asked him not to contact me; again I am ignored and my wishes denied. It is so totally unbelieveable that these personalities exist, and can and will continue to hurt, abuse and destroy others. Thank you to all those on this site who have shared their experiences.

rachel said,

March 20, 2010 @ 2:04 pm

Dr Sam

Your description of an emotionally isolated narcissist is very similar to the description of yourself as an emotionally isolated person avoiding narcissists. Do the narcissists have as credible arguments for not wanting to be around you?

I have noticed that just about everyone is a narcissist and suffer from the narcissism of everyone else. Distinguishing who is a narcissist from those who are not is now irrelevant as narcissism has become an acceptable modern behavior.

The victim industry supported by the media cultivates narcissism by providing these traumas you mention insuring that narcissism remains an active part of our lives.

So, how do we tell the difference should there actually be a few people who have fallen through the cracks and have not succumbed to narcissism?

Dr.Sam said,

March 20, 2010 @ 2:26 pm

Rachel,

We are all narcissists. It just depends how high our narcissism is. As my article states, some narcissism is good and too much is bad. Ultimately, the extreme narcissist shows his/her colors and people then become bitter towards them. They hurt people and end up lonely since they are egotistical. Thanks for your contribution and your candor.

legally struggling said,

December 7, 2010 @ 9:21 pm

My ex husband seems to be a classic narcissist, and I am really struggling with how to deal with him. I’ve seen various counselors, all only minimally helpful. The hardest part is how he seems to use our kids to try to make me hurt – a really awkward residential schedule, constant motions to the court which end up wasting 1000s in fees but don’t really accomplish much else. I wish I knew how to make it stop, and how to think about it all. The thing that has been most helpful to me is understanding that it’s not even about me. He is very sick, mentally ill, has narcissisistic personality disorder, and can’t help but to think only about himself and not about a bigger picture or what is actually good for his kids. I still find it all very sad, and I struggle in many ways as a single mom every day, but this little bit of knowledge gives me great peace.

Charleen said,

December 12, 2010 @ 10:47 am

I found this disscription interesting and familiar. We took custody of our nephew some time back (10 years ago) and at least two counselors have used this term. There is definately a differance between someone who has a healthy narsistic tendency and someone who would immediately be noted one by a practitioner. Our nephew has these characteristics. He was noted almost exactly as above. Although I find it odd that he does show so much affection to others, but as you said, it is not real affection. He uses people and when you are no longer important to his needs you ARE history. One counselor also mentioned a borderline personality disorder and we were told that the only way to try to cure him is to raise him back up from the time of his initial trauma. We were told it would cause much violence in our home, for which we had already been enduring. For the past 10 years we have dealt with some unbelievable behaviors until he recently moved out. After moving out we never hear from him unless he wants something. And as I said, we have lived with him for 10 years. Now, our home is peaceful again.

Dr.Sam said,

December 12, 2010 @ 11:28 am

Charleen,

Glad your home is peaceful again. Extreme narcissists can have lots of drama if they are not the center of the Universe. The counselors were very close to helping him. The next step would be for him to find a counselor who can take him back to the memories that traumatized him or where he first acquired his narcissistic beliefs and then apply a reframing intervention. These can be EMDR, EFT, or NLP, etc.

Dr. Sam

Charleen said,

December 12, 2010 @ 3:35 pm

Drama is actually a very good word for it. One of my children told me that it was very difficult for her because she found it hard to have a conversation with me since our nephew seemed to monopolize the conversatons. It has been a lot of stress and tention. We love our nephew and we wish the best for him for sure, and right now we are trying to maintain a relationship with him after he moved out. We hope that gradually he will do better and better on his own, but counselors have warned us that it may not be possible for him to ever have a “normal” relationship. I guess we’ll see what happens.

Charleen said,

December 17, 2010 @ 4:05 pm

What are those terms you mentioned above ie emdr, eft, or nlp????

Erin said,

December 28, 2010 @ 12:50 am

Sadly this sounds like me. Everything you described is spot on and I feel very ashamed. However, I feel some sort of hope that this condition is defined…. I don’t feel so lost. I would really like some advice as to who I should speak with to try to better who I am as a person and rise above this type of behavior. I fear I will lose everyone close to me if I do not reach out for help.

Dr.Sam said,

December 28, 2010 @ 3:43 pm

Erin,

Glad my article helped you in some form. I’ve gotten many responses like yours.

For your info, I do Skype and phone sessions.

Dr. Sam

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